Negotiating with Salesforce - Seven things you need to know about how Salesforce looks at a deal
Salesforce is good at negotiating. So your chances of getting a good deal are enhanced by understanding how they look at a deal and their goals. Your Salesforce Account Executive will lead the team you are negotiating with, in close coordination with his or her manager. This team is your path to getting the best overall deal. And while they are trained to maximize Salesforce revenue, they won’t get paid unless you make a purchase. So if you ask the right questions, and provide information that can help them get to a discount level you are comfortable with, this is the win-win situation all are striving for.
The remainder of this article provides some guidelines and background that will help you to get there.
1. Salesforce sales teams earn commissions on incremental revenue
Account Executives (also called “reps”) and their management are paid based on incremental revenue, not total revenue. If you don't buy additional licenses (or spend additional money), they don't earn commissions. More specifically, if your total spend this year is not more than last year’s, they don’t earn commissions this year. They are indifferent to whether you purchase licenses for more users, add-ons licenses for existing users, or you swap out one type of license for another, as long as the total spend is more. This is actually a good thing for the customer because it gives you more leverage and allows you to adjust your purchasing to your needs.
2. Salesforce AE’s are paid when the deal is signed
SF reps and management are paid in advance for the 12-month value of whatever you are deploying now. While they will ask for a longer contract such as three or five years, they are open to a shorter term, since most, if not all of their commissions are based on first-year revenue only. This varies from year to year, but the first year is always more important.
3. Timing matters
Salesforce's fiscal year ends in January. While this may seem strange, it is actually quite intentional. They can work with a customer the entire year to justify a new purchase, and wait until that customer's new fiscal year starts in January when the budget becomes available. And since the sales team gets paid on an annual quota they are quite happy with January deals. This often leads to very large February commission checks! But it's not only the end of the year that matters, as management and reps are often encouraged through bonus payments to close deals at the end of a quarter.Customers can take advantage of this quarter and year-end effect by asking for and often getting discounts that would otherwise not be available.
4. Discount authority is distributed
There are many articles in the public realm indicating that the rep has no power, and all of the decision-making lies with a special team that has the authority. This is not quite correct. Your rep has access to a discount/approval matrix indicating what level of discount is available, by license and quantity, and what organizational level is needed to approve it. They know how much of a discount they can get approval for, and whom they need to get that approval from. In general, each level of management has a specific level of discount they can approve. So for example, for a given size deal, your rep may be able to offer you a 10% discount without additional approval. His manager may be able to approve an additional 5%, and each level of management above can offer some additional discounting. The special approvals team is involved only when a deal requires additional discounting, beyond what a given size of deal and management level can approve. A good rep knows how to work this structure, and will do so to get you the best deal they believe they need to have to get your signature. So while the rep doesn't necessarily have the authority to grant you the discount you might want, they are your advocate and absolutely control the path to get you a better deal. So keep pushing and asking for more - as you get closer to year-end or quarter-end, more of the management will be interested in helping your rep get you a bigger discount. And it is highly likely that your rep’s manager (Salesforce calls the first-line sales manager a “Regional Vice President”, or “RVP”) is fully knowledgeable about every deal, so going above the rep does not necessarily get you better discounts.
5. Discounts depend on both deal size and customer size
Larger deals and larger customers generally get larger discounts. The combination of order size and customer spend leads to the discount they might offer you for a particular purchase. For example, a $100k purchase from a customer spending $2M annually will likely get a larger discount than that same $100k purchase from a customer spending $500k annually. Conversely, a $2M customer making a $10k purchase may get a larger discount than a $100K purchase made by a new customer.While deal size determines the discount level, customer size determines where the discount level for the deal starts.
6. Consolidating purchases increase your discount
Salesforce loves it when you make lots of little purchases. Each one is considered as if it were the only purchase you are making, and thus separate individual purchases lead to higher overall spend (see #5). When you are about to make a purchase, be sure to consider if any other groups in your organization are doing the same, as well as purchases you might be making in the short term future. If you can consolidate the orders into a single request, your deal size goes up, and your discount level will likely improve.
7. Consider near term future demand in your current purchase
As an extension to the previous point to consolidate your purchases, this can be extended to include purchases that will likely be made in the next few months or even the next year. Providing this to the account team will allow them to provide several options to you, and you will be able to see larger discount levels that might be available to you. This will likely include making the full year’s purchase upfront, which will lower your cost per license, but potentially increase your short-term spend. The downside of advancing purchases before you need them is that there will be licenses that are unused for part of the contract term. You can then compare which is better for you, both in the short term and the long term, since your renewals will start from a lower price per user. You may find that even though some licenses are unused for a time, your overall cost is lower, especially when you consider the cost of several years in the future. Most good account teams will be able to provide you sufficiently better deals to make this worthwhile for you to make the purchase up front. And since you have already paid for the licenses, the faster you can deploy them, the more you will benefit, without incurring additional costs.
Bonus - Not all licenses need to be activated concurrently
Let's say you are planning on deploying 900 licenses in the next 12 months, with a schedule of 300 in month 1, 300 in month 4, and 300 in month 7.You will almost always get a better price if you purchase all 900 at once, rather than 3 purchases of 300, but you will end up with licenses that you are paying for and not using for some of this time. Conversely, if you make three purchases, you are not paying for anything prior to actually deploying them, but the cost per license will be higher.A better option is often available that combines the best of both. You can agree to purchase the 900 licenses in a single order but delay the activation dates for the licenses you will not be activating in the next few months. Your order form will have three line items, one for each activation date. But since your discount will be based on the full 900 license purchase, they will all be less expensive, and you are not paying prior to when you need them! Salesforce calls this a “staggered deal” structure.
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Inc. Magazine Unveils Its First-Ever List of the Midwest’s Fastest-Growing Private Companies— The Inc. 5000 Series: Midwest
The Negotiator Guru Ranks No. 15 on the inaugural 2020 Inc. 5000 Series: Midwest
NEW YORK, March 25, 2020 – Inc. magazine today revealed that The Negotiator Guru is No.15 on its inaugural Inc. 5000 Series: Midwest list, the most prestigious ranking of the fastest-growing private companies in Illinois, Indiana, Iowa, Kansas, Michigan, Minnesota, Missouri, Nebraska, North Dakota, Ohio, South Dakota, and Wisconsin.
Born of the annual Inc. 5000 franchise, this regional list represents a unique look at the most successful companies within the Midwest economy’s most dynamic segment—its independent small businesses.
“We’re honored to be recognized in the Inc. 5000 list as one of the fastest growing private companies in the Midwest,” said Dan Kelly, Founder and Senior Partner. The Negotiator Guru also ranked #2 in the state of Minnesota and #5 in the category of Business Products and Services. “Our success is a direct result of the value we’ve delivered with, and for, our global enterprise client base. Congratulations to the TNG team!”
The companies on this list show stunning rates of growth across all industries in the 12 Midwest states. Between 2016 and 2018, these 250 private companies had an average growth rate of 360 percent and, in 2018 alone, they employed more than 27,000 people and added $13 billion to the Midwest’s economy. Companies based in the Chicago, Detroit, and Cincinnati areas brought in the highest revenue overall. Complete results of the Inc. 5000 Series: Midwest, including company profiles and an interactive database that can be sorted by industry, metro area, and other criteria, can be found here starting March 25, 2020.
“The companies on this list demonstrate just how much the small-business sector impacts the economies of each Midwest state,” says Inc. editor in chief Scott Omelianuk. “Across every single industry, these businesses have posted revenue and growth rates that are beyond impressive, further proving the tenacity of their founders and CEOs.”
About The Negotiator Guru
The Negotiator Guru is the leading advisory firm for Salesforce contract negotiation. Our team of Senior IT Sourcing Experts provides industry leading IT contract negotiation services for a global client base. Clients engage us to source, negotiate, and manage highly complex IT contracts, transactions and suppliers. Through our deep business understanding and senior expert negotiation skills, we work closely with clients to deliver immediate and long-lasting financial impact to all stakeholders.
Founded in 2015, The Negotiator Guru is a private company based in Minneapolis, Minnesota. For more information, visit www.thenegotiator.guru. More about Inc. and the Inc.
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The 2020 Inc. 5000 Regional Series is ranked according to percentage revenue growth when comparing 2016 and 2018. To qualify, companies must have been founded and generating revenue by March 31, 2016. They had to be U.S.-based, privately held, for profit, and independent—not subsidiaries or divisions of other companies—as of December 31, 2018. (Since then, a number of companies on the list have gone public or been acquired.) The minimum revenue required for 2016 is $100,000; the minimum for 2018 is $1 million. As always, Inc. reserves the right to decline applicants for subjective reasons.
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Why are Companies Hesitant to Engage Outside Consultants?
Why is it that companies are sometimes resistant to engaging with a cost savings firm like The Negotiator Guru (TNG)? Furthermore, why is it that a company refuses to engage with an advisory firm (like TNG) after they know there is a guaranteed ROI? Is there any rational reason for this or is it purely an emotional response?We at TNG find ourselves asking these questions far too often…
We know humans can be complicated (😊), but we wanted to dig deeper into what sometimes appears to be irrational behavior that negates shareholder value creation opportunities. As a result, we conducted ethnographic research on the cause of this behavior with the intent of identifying key trends, by persona. Here are a few of the key insights we discovered:
- IT Leadership (CIO, VP of IT, etc.) fears they will hurt the relationship with the software publisher/service provider leading to service degradation.
- Purchasing/Procurement/Sourcing representatives have huge egos and thrive on taking credit internally. Furthermore, they are worried about their job security if someone else can achieve a greater result.
- CFOs think they only way to achieve such savings is by changing vendors (ex: Salesforce to Microsoft) or by cutting products/services.
- Business leadership think it will take too much time to achieve the prospective savings which will negate the realized ROI.
- Executives at publicly traded companies are generally risk adverse and think it’s safer to use a big 4 consulting firm (that’s already “in the system”) even though they will likely cost more and achieve much less (since they’re a generalist vs. specialist).
We’ve heard different variations of these key objections for years. What makes us most proud is that some of this feedback came from a few of our past clientele who decided to overcome their natural resistance as they knew what was best for their organization. Per the recommendation of these past customer respondents, we've outlined what they experienced (vs. initial perceived resistance):
- Vendor Relationship – While it may be slightly uncomfortable at the beginning (depending on how much Right Sizing and/or Right Pricing opportunities TNG identifies), the vendor relationship and service quality improves at the conclusion of the TNG engagement. The vendor is engaged with the customer in a strategic manner and the customer can now feel confident they are only paying for what they need at a fair price.
- Procurement Job Security – TNG acts like a force multiplier for existing Procurement teams. As such, TNG simply seeks to enable high impact results vs. seek credit.
- Vendor/Product Change – Vendor changes are extremely rare. TNG simply identifies how internal stakeholders use the respective software platform (via their proprietary persona analysis) and identifies cost savings opportunities without sacrificing functionality/service quality.
- Time/Cost to Achieve – Internal business stakeholders are rarely involved in the process after the Discovery phase is complete.
- Niche vs. Generalist – The speed and consistency in which TNG can delivery results is a direct result of their focus and dedication focusing on their core competency, such as Salesforce.
Interestingly, our analysis identified the following key insights regarding business leaders' intention for engaging an outside advisory firm (summarized for brevity):
- IT Leadership sometimes feel uncomfortable being the “tough voice,” so they hire a 3rd party who brings the credentials to speak from an authoritative position.
- C-Suite Executives simply want to motivate (prove to) their Procurement/Business Teams that the “great deal on the table” is not so great after all.
- Procurement leadership wants to be armed with accurate price benchmarking or contract term knowledge. They recognize they can’t be experts in everything and value niche expertise from specialists vs. generalists.
- Board members want to do anything possible to reinforce their fiduciary duty to their shareholders…this includes identifying, and executing on, every available cost savings opportunity.
- Contract negotiators want to understand the software publisher’s sales playbook and internal incentive process…not just general market intelligence.
We hope that you find these key insights helpful as you contemplate and reflect on your own personal resistance to engaging an outside advisory firm. TNG prides itself to make every engagement as risk-free as possible for our clients. Furthermore, TNG will only accept a client if we know there is a major impact opportunity…if not, we will simply give you some free advice. Ready to explore joining the TNG family? Contact us today to set-up a client intake assessment where we identify your cost savings opportunity for free!
Why Salesforce Commerce Cloud Negotiations are Different
What is Commerce Cloud
The Salesforce Commerce Cloud is one of the fastest growing segments within the Salesforce ecosystem of products and services. The Commerce Cloud provides an enterprise grade e-commerce solution that which is a direct competitor to e-commerce heavyweights including, but not limited to; Shopify, Magento (Adobe), SAP, Oracle, just to name a few.
Since about 2018, Salesforce has highlighted the e-commerce cloud as a strategic growth channel for its existing customers. In other words, Salesforce has focused on deploying their “land and expand” sales strategies to deploy the e-commerce platform amongst its Sales and Service Cloud customers. There are clearly significant customer experience opportunities that can be enabled when e-commerce is connected directly to your CRM. Ironically, the TNG team is engaged by both new and existing Salesforce customers to assist with commercial negotiations related to the on-ramp and off-ramp of Commerce Cloud. Our clients seem to either love or hate the Salesforce Commerce Cloud depending on their specific use case. No matter where you land on the love/hate spectrum, it’s important to understand key negotiation opportunities/risks that are specific to the Salesforce Commerce Cloud.
History of SF Commerce Cloud
Salesforce acquired Demandware on June 1st, 2016 for $2.8 Billion USD. Some say that Salesforce was “forced” into the acquisition based on a synergistic customer portfolio (with Demandware), a lackluster homegrown solution filled with development challenges, and a competitor landscape (including Oracle, Adobe, etc.) who were making significant strides in the space.
In our opinion, Salesforce acquired Demandware primarily to purchase a pre-existing retail customer base that can be cross-sold Salesforce native functionality like Sales and Service Cloud. Salesforce had historically been lacking both North American and European retail customer penetration so this allowed an easy on-ramp. Fast forward to 2021 and Salesforce is still lagging (compared to their normal market penetration) in retail customer acquisition globally. Furthermore, we have seen many legacy Demandware customers transition away from the Salesforce Commerce Cloud and migrate over to easier-to-use platforms like Shopify. Having the e-commerce competitive landscape in mind is important when exploring/negotiation a commercial relationship with Salesforce either as a new or existing customer.
Why these negotiations are different
Salesforce typically organizes their sales team by industry, region, and product line (cloud). Their sales team incentives are consistently changing but are largely established by industry and product line. Furthermore, customer pricing is influenced based on industry, annual contract value, and customer revenue. To be most effective at any commercial negotiation it’s important to have as much data as possible. This includes identifying the supplier’s interests and best-in-class rates on a product-by-product basis based on your unique footprint. We call this our Right Price Benchmarking service which is included as part of our Full Negotiation Service or also offered as a standalone product for those that just want the data. Salesforce, and for that matter all e-commerce solution providers, are fully aware that switching costs from one e-commerce platform to another is an undesirable expense. They know that once they get you onto their platform that you will need to be really upset to create a reason to leave. The fact of the matter is that plenty of customers do leave Salesforce’s Commerce Cloud for one or multiple reasons. Our research, and real client experiences, have identified one consistent trend amongst those looking to leave: Out of control run costs. No matter whether you’re a new or existing customer to Salesforce it’s important to be as prepared as possible when engaging Salesforce. Take a look at the section below for some key insights specifically related to negotiating a Salesforce Commerce Cloud contract.
Key Insights/Tips
Now that you understand the history and key motivations related to Salesforce’s Commerce Cloud you should be able to apply the below key insights most effectively.
- Salesforce is heavily focused on capture net new retail customers. Your Salesforce sales team is heavily incentivized to find and convert customers on existing e-commerce platforms.
- If you are a current Salesforce customer and exploring the Commerce Cloud, be focused on “lift and shift” credits from Salesforce that help mitigate any change costs. Depending on your situation, you can negotiate credits to be applied immediately, over the contract term, via discounts on other products, etc.
- It’s very important you conduct a thorough assessment of your options and the overall total cost of ownership impact of your potential options. For example, a one-time credit on the Commerce Cloud license fees may produce far lass benefit to your organization than a % discount on your existing license footprint with Salesforce.
- It’s important to understand who has decision-making authority inside of Salesforce. It largely depends on what you’re asking for, the overall relationship impact, and the attractiveness of you the customer. The only way to successful navigate the Salesforce ecosystem is to hire a firm that deals with Salesforce everyday and has ex-Salesforce employees (excuse the shameful TNG plug).
- Literally 90% of current Salesforce customers that engage TNG are paying for more digital capability than they need. Those same customers are also overpaying for licenses that that they don’t even need. It’s very important you conduct a Right Sizing assessment to ensure you’re only procuring what you need.
- Specific to Commerce Cloud, this includes forecasting your Gross Merchandise Value (GMV) projections for each contract year.
- Similar to the above point, our research empirically proved that 100% of our customers (no matter new or existing Salesforce customers) have committed to higher revenue targets than needed in the interest of “getting the best deal” without TNG support;
- This creates a material risk to the Salesforce customer when they don’t hit those targets.
- Generally speaking, a longer contract term will drive a lower GMV price point;
- Even if you feel very confident in your GMV projections, focus on usage and price-point flexibility within your Commerce Cloud contract to eliminate surprises and capture cost savings if revenue actuals exceed projections.
- Note: If you are in an industry that is undergoing significant industry consolidation (M&A activity) then you should provide yourself the flexibility to acquire and/or divest mid-contract with Salesforce.
Negotiating with Salesforce is more of an art than a science. It’s important that you understand all of the facts before negotiating with Salesforce. Please feel free to contact us for some additional helpful tips as you start to explore the Salesforce Commerce Cloud. (And yes, we’re happy to help even if you’re in the 19th hour of negotiations 😊)
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